PCB Libraries Forum : Zero Orientation And Pin Numbering https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/ Thu, 16 Apr 2026 00:56:09 +0000 Mon, 22 Dec 2014 09:58:34 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=1515 <![CDATA[PCB Libraries Forum]]> https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/forum_images/PCBLForumLogo.gif https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/ <![CDATA[Zero Orientation And Pin Numbering : I would use FP Designer to create...]]> https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/zero-orientation-and-pin-numbering_topic1515_post6141.html#6141 Author: Tom H
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Posted: 22 Dec 2014 at 9:58am

I would use FP Designer to create this footprint package as there is no IPC Calculator for Bridge Rectifier. Why are you using V2012 Library Expert software when V2015 Library Expert is available?

IPC-7351 Zero Component Orientation only references the location of Pin 1. IPC-7351C introduces "Level B" rotation and we're currently working on that draft. It will be released in February 2016.

IPC has set up answers@ipc.orgto answer industry questions.

When you email your question, it is forwarded to the chairpeople on each committee to get their reply and they are then sent back to theperson who asked the question.


]]> Mon, 22 Dec 2014 09:58:34 +0000 https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/zero-orientation-and-pin-numbering_topic1515_post6141.html#6141 <![CDATA[Zero Orientation And Pin Numbering : Hi Tom,I see your post just after...]]> https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/zero-orientation-and-pin-numbering_topic1515_post6140.html#6140 Author: Maarten Verhage
Subject: 1515
Posted: 22 Dec 2014 at 9:44am

Hi Tom,

I see your post just after I made the little edit above.

I'm sorry to have to say this but when reading your message I feel you did not answer my questions. You sure made clear the difference between level A and B. But please it would be so nice to get direct answers to my questions. I don't think they are that hard to answer.

I hope to hear from you!

Regards, Maarten
]]> Mon, 22 Dec 2014 09:44:36 +0000 https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/zero-orientation-and-pin-numbering_topic1515_post6140.html#6140 <![CDATA[Zero Orientation And Pin Numbering : Little edit to previous post today:&#034;Of...]]> https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/zero-orientation-and-pin-numbering_topic1515_post6139.html#6139 Author: Maarten Verhage
Subject: 1515
Posted: 22 Dec 2014 at 9:34am

Little edit to previous post today:

"Of course if I don't alter the rotation in the footprint in Pulsonix."

Of course rotating the footprint in the PCB layout is altering the rotation value in the rotation column of the pick&place file, without changing the zero orientation.
]]> Mon, 22 Dec 2014 09:34:02 +0000 https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/zero-orientation-and-pin-numbering_topic1515_post6139.html#6139 <![CDATA[Zero Orientation And Pin Numbering : IPC-7351 Level B and IEC 61188-7...]]> https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/zero-orientation-and-pin-numbering_topic1515_post6138.html#6138 Author: Tom H
Subject: 1515
Posted: 22 Dec 2014 at 9:33am

IPC-7351 Level B and IEC 61188-7 are identical zero component orientation.

Here is the Bridge Rectifier Level B Zero Component Orientation, Pin 1 is Lower Left. 

 

Here is the Bridge Rectifier Level A Zero Component Orientation, Pin 2 is Upper Left.

 

]]> Mon, 22 Dec 2014 09:33:23 +0000 https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/zero-orientation-and-pin-numbering_topic1515_post6138.html#6138 <![CDATA[Zero Orientation And Pin Numbering : Hi Tom,Would you be willing to...]]> https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/zero-orientation-and-pin-numbering_topic1515_post6137.html#6137 Author: Maarten Verhage
Subject: 1515
Posted: 22 Dec 2014 at 6:52am

Hi Tom,

Would you be willing to explain just a little bit more, because I still not understand what's the best way to do it.

Do you mean that as I have chosen for level B I must ensure pin 1 is always lower left for every IC like package?

In a very practical sense I must verify pin 1 is lower left before I press the "Build current footprint" button (PCB Footprint Expert v2012.53). And exporting to Pulsonix. So "building current footprint" actually sets the the zero orientation, correct? Of course if I don't alter the rotation in Pulsonix.

So, it is just the location of pin 1 that matters for zero orientation and where the other pin numbers happens to end up with doesn't matter right?

And the zero orientation can have the chip text direction upside down, correct? Maybe a notification to the assembly shop people would be useful to make them aware of this.

And the responsibility of the chip manufacturer is basically to specify the location of pin 1 in the tape, correct?

Best regards,
Maarten Verhage



]]> Mon, 22 Dec 2014 06:52:53 +0000 https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/zero-orientation-and-pin-numbering_topic1515_post6137.html#6137 <![CDATA[Zero Orientation And Pin Numbering : The Comchip Bridge Rectifier datasheet...]]> https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/zero-orientation-and-pin-numbering_topic1515_post6135.html#6135 Author: Tom H
Subject: 1515
Posted: 21 Dec 2014 at 5:57pm

The Comchip Bridge Rectifier datasheet is 180 degrees out of IPC-7351C Level B Zero Component Orientation.


 

]]> Sun, 21 Dec 2014 17:57:53 +0000 https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/zero-orientation-and-pin-numbering_topic1515_post6135.html#6135 <![CDATA[Zero Orientation And Pin Numbering : Dear Tom Hausherr,I am building...]]> https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/zero-orientation-and-pin-numbering_topic1515_post6134.html#6134 Author: Maarten Verhage
Subject: 1515
Posted: 21 Dec 2014 at 12:12pm

Dear Tom Hausherr,

I am building my footprints according to Zero orientation level B. Now I came across the following part with the highly unusual clockwise pin numbering starting from the top right corner. See attachment.

uploads/527/Comchip_Z4GP206-HF_bridge_rectifier.pdf

What would you suggest me to do to create the correct orientation and pin numbering in the footprint? Of course with a high emphasis of presenting this in a logical way to a assembly shop, to prevent them messing up the orientation.

I'm tempted to redefine the pin numbering myself according to the usual counterclockwise numbering starting bottom left. With a notification about this in the schematic. Then the zero orientation is also with the readable text on the package. What do you think about this?

In general does the IPC say something about pin numbering?

Best regards,
Maarten Verhage



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