PCB Libraries Forum : Disabling Model Body Outline https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/ Mon, 06 Apr 2026 09:21:37 +0000 Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:12:09 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=920 <![CDATA[PCB Libraries Forum]]> https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/forum_images/PCBLForumLogo.gif https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/ <![CDATA[Disabling Model Body Outline : chrisa_pcb wrote: I&#039;ve...]]> https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/disabling-model-body-outline_topic920_post3893.html#3893 Author: dwaltoneng
Subject: 920
Posted: 14 Jul 2013 at 3:12pm

Originally posted by chrisa_pcb chrisa_pcb wrote:

I've set it to show the Courtyard and 3D Model Outline Layers for Diptrace. It'll be in 2013, which should be the next release.

Thanks for adding this. The library was not usable in DipTrace before this.

Originally posted by dwaltoneng dwaltoneng wrote:

Is it going to be possible to turn off the body outline in the user preferences drafting tab? Tom H seemed to think it should be possible in the second post of this thread.

This is still not possible through Setup->UserPreferences. However it works if you edit "C:\Program Files\PCB Libraries\FPX 2013\UserPreferences.dat" and set ModelOutlineWidth="0".
]]> Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:12:09 +0000 https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/disabling-model-body-outline_topic920_post3893.html#3893 <![CDATA[Disabling Model Body Outline : chrisa_pcb wrote: I&#039;ve...]]> https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/disabling-model-body-outline_topic920_post3474.html#3474 Author: dwaltoneng
Subject: 920
Posted: 30 Apr 2013 at 2:34pm

Originally posted by chrisa_pcb chrisa_pcb wrote:

I've set it to show the Courtyard and 3D Model Outline Layers for Diptrace. It'll be in 2013, which should be the next release.

It appears this has not made it to the draft version of v2013 yet.

Is it going to be possible to turn off the body outline in the user preferences drafting tab? Tom H seemed to think it should be possible in the second post of this thread.
]]> Tue, 30 Apr 2013 14:34:58 +0000 https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/disabling-model-body-outline_topic920_post3474.html#3474 <![CDATA[Disabling Model Body Outline : I&#039;ve set it to show the...]]> https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/disabling-model-body-outline_topic920_post3438.html#3438 Author: chrisa_pcb
Subject: 920
Posted: 24 Apr 2013 at 4:42pm

I've set it to show the Courtyard and 3D Model Outline Layers for Diptrace. It'll be in 2013, which should be the next release.]]> Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:42:48 +0000 https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/disabling-model-body-outline_topic920_post3438.html#3438 <![CDATA[Disabling Model Body Outline : jameshead wrote:David,I checked...]]> https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/disabling-model-body-outline_topic920_post3436.html#3436 Author: dwaltoneng
Subject: 920
Posted: 24 Apr 2013 at 2:20pm

Originally posted by jameshead jameshead wrote:

David,

I checked to make sure and 2012.51 FPX works correctly in that if you change the Courtyard Outline Width to 0.00, de-select "Include Centroid marker with Courtyard" and changed "3-D Model Outline Width" then these items will not be included in a PADS 2007 .d file output for the "Pulsonix" output, and I loaded in to DipTrace okay.

*PADS-LIBRARY-PCB-DECALS-V2007*

TRIAL2 M 0 0 2 2 3 0 5 1
TIMESTAMP 2013.4.24.14.11.39
"Geometry.Height" 1.1mm
"Description" Small Outline Transistor (SOT23), 0.65 mm pitch;5 pin,2.00 mm L X 1.25 mm W X 1.10 mm H body
0 0 0 0 0.87 0.09 27 17 42 "Default Font"
REF-DES
0 0 0 0 1.2 0.12 26 17 42 "Default Font"
REF-DES
CLOSED 6 0.12 27 -1
1.1 -0.68
-0.647 -0.68
-1.1 -0.227
-1.1 0.68
1.1 0.68
1.1 -0.68
OPEN 2 0.12 26 -1
-1.1 -1.495
-1.1 0.68
OPEN 2 0.12 26 -1
1.1 -0.68
1.1 0.68
T-0.65 -0.96 -0.65 -0.96 1
T0 -0.96 0 -0.96 2
T0.65 -0.96 0.65 -0.96 3
T0.65 0.96 0.65 0.96 4
T-0.65 0.96 -0.65 0.96 5
PAD 0 5 N 0
-2 0.4 RF 90 1.19 0
-1 0 R
0 0 R
21 0.4 RF 90 1.19 0
23 0.4 RF 90 1.19 0

*END*

The contents of the .d file are above.  If you copy and paste this into a text file and save it as trial2.d you can try and import it yourself to see.

In the footprint if you click the Drafting tab you can change these settings on the fly, per footprint, or you can use Setup and User Preferences, select Drafting and change them permanently here under USER but then select USER for Environment under the Design tab.

James



Thanks for your help. I have mentioned in some posts this morning that I can get the Pulsonix output option to work with DipTrace (but only with the Footprint Expert Lite version unfortunately).

]]> Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:20:55 +0000 https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/disabling-model-body-outline_topic920_post3436.html#3436 <![CDATA[Disabling Model Body Outline : dwaltoneng wrote:Hi James,Thanks...]]> https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/disabling-model-body-outline_topic920_post3435.html#3435 Author: dwaltoneng
Subject: 920
Posted: 24 Apr 2013 at 2:09pm

Originally posted by dwaltoneng dwaltoneng wrote:

Hi James,
Thanks for your help. However the Footprint Expert DipTrace output option only lists the following layers (in the create footprint dialog box): Solder Mask, Paste Mask, Silkscreen Outline, Assembly Outline. The Pulsonix output option also lists Courtyard Outline and 3D Model Outline.
DipTrace appears to be importing the Assembly Outline correctly, so I assume it is Footprint Expert that is mapping the 3D Model Outline and the Courtyard Outline to the Silkscreen Outline.

I just had a look at the PADS file created using the DipTrace output option. The "Courtyard Outline" and the "3D Model Outline" are still placed on layers 20 and 25 respectively, Footprint Expert just does not give the option of changing them. DipTrace is mapping layers 20 and 25 onto the silkscreen.

Is it possible for PCB Libraries to update Footprint Expert so that the "Create Footprint" dialog box for the DipTrace output option has the same fields as the Pulsonix output option. I would then be able to map the courtyard and model outline where I liked (probably the Assembly layer is the only possibility).
]]> Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:09:00 +0000 https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/disabling-model-body-outline_topic920_post3435.html#3435 <![CDATA[Disabling Model Body Outline : I just tried the Pulsonix output...]]> https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/disabling-model-body-outline_topic920_post3434.html#3434 Author: dwaltoneng
Subject: 920
Posted: 24 Apr 2013 at 1:46pm

I just tried the Pulsonix output option with "PCB Footprint Expert Lite" (I only have the full version for the DipTrace output option). If I set the "Courtyard Outline" and "3D Model Outline" to layer 27, then these layers end up on the assembly layer when imported into DipTrace.
]]> Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:46:03 +0000 https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/disabling-model-body-outline_topic920_post3434.html#3434 <![CDATA[Disabling Model Body Outline : Jeff.M wrote: I was wrong...]]> https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/disabling-model-body-outline_topic920_post3433.html#3433 Author: dwaltoneng
Subject: 920
Posted: 24 Apr 2013 at 1:36pm

Originally posted by Jeff.M Jeff.M wrote:

I was wrong about exporting the model outline...it is included in the output (Iwas thinking about the terminal outlines which are not exported).  To disable the model outline, set the width to zero.  Its the very last item on the references drafting tab.  This worked in the few parts I tried but if you find it isn't working for you it may be a part-specific bug.  In that case please let me know the component thats giving you trouble.


If I click on Setup "User Preferences" or "Default Preferences" and then the Drafting tab, I can't set the model outline width to zero. I have tried this with v2012.50 and v2012.51.
I have now found that I can set the "3-D Model Outline Width" to zero on the Drafting tab individually for each component. If I "Build Current Footprint" this works, but if I "Build Library Selection" the "User Preferences" or "Default Preferences" take over and I end up with the model outline on the silkscreen again.
]]> Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:36:17 +0000 https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/disabling-model-body-outline_topic920_post3433.html#3433 <![CDATA[Disabling Model Body Outline : I was wrong about exporting...]]> https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/disabling-model-body-outline_topic920_post3430.html#3430 Author: Jeff.M
Subject: 920
Posted: 24 Apr 2013 at 6:36am

I was wrong about exporting the model outline...it is included in the output (Iwas thinking about the terminal outlines which are not exported).  To disable the model outline, set the width to zero.  Its the very last item on the references drafting tab.  This worked in the few parts I tried but if you find it isn't working for you it may be a part-specific bug.  In that case please let me know the component thats giving you trouble.]]> Wed, 24 Apr 2013 06:36:26 +0000 https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/disabling-model-body-outline_topic920_post3430.html#3430 <![CDATA[Disabling Model Body Outline : David,I checked to make sure and...]]> https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/disabling-model-body-outline_topic920_post3429.html#3429 Author: jameshead
Subject: 920
Posted: 24 Apr 2013 at 6:17am

David,

I checked to make sure and 2012.51 FPX works correctly in that if you change the Courtyard Outline Width to 0.00, de-select "Include Centroid marker with Courtyard" and changed "3-D Model Outline Width" then these items will not be included in a PADS 2007 .d file output for the "Pulsonix" output, and I loaded in to DipTrace okay.

*PADS-LIBRARY-PCB-DECALS-V2007*

TRIAL2 M 0 0 2 2 3 0 5 1
TIMESTAMP 2013.4.24.14.11.39
"Geometry.Height" 1.1mm
"Description" Small Outline Transistor (SOT23), 0.65 mm pitch;5 pin,2.00 mm L X 1.25 mm W X 1.10 mm H body
0 0 0 0 0.87 0.09 27 17 42 "Default Font"
REF-DES
0 0 0 0 1.2 0.12 26 17 42 "Default Font"
REF-DES
CLOSED 6 0.12 27 -1
1.1 -0.68
-0.647 -0.68
-1.1 -0.227
-1.1 0.68
1.1 0.68
1.1 -0.68
OPEN 2 0.12 26 -1
-1.1 -1.495
-1.1 0.68
OPEN 2 0.12 26 -1
1.1 -0.68
1.1 0.68
T-0.65 -0.96 -0.65 -0.96 1
T0 -0.96 0 -0.96 2
T0.65 -0.96 0.65 -0.96 3
T0.65 0.96 0.65 0.96 4
T-0.65 0.96 -0.65 0.96 5
PAD 0 5 N 0
-2 0.4 RF 90 1.19 0
-1 0 R
0 0 R
21 0.4 RF 90 1.19 0
23 0.4 RF 90 1.19 0

*END*

The contents of the .d file are above.  If you copy and paste this into a text file and save it as trial2.d you can try and import it yourself to see.

In the footprint if you click the Drafting tab you can change these settings on the fly, per footprint, or you can use Setup and User Preferences, select Drafting and change them permanently here under USER but then select USER for Environment under the Design tab.

James


]]> Wed, 24 Apr 2013 06:17:57 +0000 https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/disabling-model-body-outline_topic920_post3429.html#3429 <![CDATA[Disabling Model Body Outline : I didn&#039;t quite read your...]]> https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/disabling-model-body-outline_topic920_post3427.html#3427 Author: jameshead
Subject: 920
Posted: 24 Apr 2013 at 6:07am

I didn't quite read your first bit correctly where you talked about the DipTrace output from FPX.  I see what you are saying here now, that you don't have the option to change the layer number for the Courtyard Outline, nor 3D Model Outline in the Create Footprint dialogue.

I've just noticed a small typo here!  In the Pulsonix Create Footprint dialogue it says "3D Model Oultline" instead of "3D Model Outline"!

Certainly 20 and 25 are the usual default layer numbers in PADS for these, that I've seen in every PADS footprint I've imported from various different sources - not just FPX - so I guess DipTrace just doesn't recognise these layers.

]]> Wed, 24 Apr 2013 06:07:36 +0000 https://www.PCBLibraries.com/forum/disabling-model-body-outline_topic920_post3427.html#3427